Comments on: SUSE 10.0: Get the facts! http://overtag.dk/wordpress/2005/10/suse-100-get-the-facts/ 101% objective... always Wed, 28 Dec 2011 02:47:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Makaqwa http://overtag.dk/wordpress/2005/10/suse-100-get-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-10 Makaqwa Mon, 10 Oct 2005 10:44:26 +0000 http://overtag.dk/wordpress/?p=3#comment-10 Nice review. It's looks like SuSE still can't move toward performance, so I'd better not going to try it out. And the cracked opensuse site was a very bad beginning for the opensuse project. And there is actually opensuse has ended with testing versions, they still have Eval DVDs, etc. It's still a kind of shareware. I'd better use my Debian. Nice review. It’s looks like SuSE still can’t move toward performance, so I’d better not going to try it out. And the cracked opensuse site was a very bad beginning for the opensuse project. And there is actually opensuse has ended with testing versions, they still have Eval DVDs, etc. It’s still a kind of shareware. I’d better use my Debian.

]]> By: Benjamin http://overtag.dk/wordpress/2005/10/suse-100-get-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-9 Benjamin Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:37:34 +0000 http://overtag.dk/wordpress/?p=3#comment-9 Keeping in mind that good DVDRs cost money and it's so much faster to install from your hdd or a LAN connection, I sincerely think that you should avoid burn *if possible*. I've wasted too much time and money on bad media, and that's why I stand by this. Keeping in mind that good DVDRs cost money and it’s so much faster to install from your hdd or a LAN connection, I sincerely think that you should avoid burn *if possible*. I’ve wasted too much time and money on bad media, and that’s why I stand by this.

]]> By: Florent http://overtag.dk/wordpress/2005/10/suse-100-get-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-8 Florent Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:29:03 +0000 http://overtag.dk/wordpress/?p=3#comment-8 Whoaw, nice, my fonts tutorial is linked from your review, great ;o) Whoaw, nice, my fonts tutorial is linked from your review, great ;o)

]]> By: Vince http://overtag.dk/wordpress/2005/10/suse-100-get-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-7 Vince Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:18:06 +0000 http://overtag.dk/wordpress/?p=3#comment-7 "Don't burn ISO's" is still misleading. Please use the word "alternative" instead to explain another installation option. Oh and by the way, I did download all five ISO's and wanted to burn them on LiteOn 16x DVD burner, but used hispace black carbon dvd medias with a black writing surface. Then afterwards i used Yast "check media" tool to calculate the internal checksum (not the checksum of the ISO's), but all of these medias failed!!! So I used higher quality medias from tdk and used a lower writing speed. The installation party was a success!! I like opensuse on my notebook dell inspiron 8600, everythings works except the modem I didn't test. “Don’t burn ISO’s” is still misleading. Please use the word “alternative” instead to explain another installation option. Oh and by the way, I did download all five ISO’s and wanted to burn them on LiteOn 16x DVD burner, but used hispace black carbon dvd medias with a black writing surface. Then afterwards i used Yast “check media” tool to calculate the internal checksum (not the checksum of the ISO’s), but all of these medias failed!!! So I used higher quality medias from tdk and used a lower writing speed. The installation party was a success!! I like opensuse on my notebook dell inspiron 8600, everythings works except the modem I didn’t test.

]]> By: B?ranger http://overtag.dk/wordpress/2005/10/suse-100-get-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-6 B?ranger Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:02:55 +0000 http://overtag.dk/wordpress/?p=3#comment-6 #1 Comment on: <i>Graphics and fonts are smoother which is the result of a better ATI driver I suppose. SUSE 9.3 didn't look clear, but 10.0 certainly does.</i> Actually, it's because in SuSE 10.0, freetype2 is compiled with BYTECODE_INTERPRETER enabled. #2 Comment on: <i>Don't burn ISOs: . . . In return you'll save your money on the DVD-R, save time burning</i>. Now, compared to the D/L time, just how much time are you saving? C'mon! And how much does cost a DVD-R? Let's get real, it's not that expensive! #3 Comment on: <i>we'd all like to see some more of that SuperKaramba. But it's not included. Shame on you, SUSE!</i> SuperKaramba is _NOT_ a serious, business-oriented, thing. It's an <b>eye-candy gizmo</b>. I don't need it. Real business envoronments should not need it. Way to go, Novell! #4 Comment on: <i>One important note though is that you get 450 packages less on the Eval DVD than on the 5 CDs. Thunderbird is amongst the packages missing on the DVD.</i> It seems that starting with Suse 10.0, when DVDs for i386 and x64 are now separated, this is NOT TRUE ANYMORE! Despite of what still says <a href="http://www.novell.com/products/suselinux/downloads/suse_linux/instructions_eval.html#cd_vs_dvd">here (CD vs. DVD)</a>, that "the DVD edition contains . . . a streamlined 32bit version of the software." (the text is inherited unchanged from 9.3), it seems that not only the "Eval" DVD is now separated for the i386 and x64 platforms, <b>but</b> a DVD holds "the contents of these 5 i386 CDs" (see the <a href="http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse-announce/2005-Oct/0003.html">release announcement</a>). So, please inquiry on the missing of the Thundebird. Maybe it's not on the 5 CDs either! Hint: in 9.3 there were some packages missing from the DVD, I can certify for: gnome-keyring-devel, gnome-panel-devel and libjpeg-devel. <b>If they are</b> now on the DVD for 10.0, then we should admit that now DVD == 5 CDs. #1 Comment on: Graphics and fonts are smoother which is the result of a better ATI driver I suppose. SUSE 9.3 didn’t look clear, but 10.0 certainly does.

Actually, it’s because in SuSE 10.0, freetype2 is compiled with BYTECODE_INTERPRETER enabled.

#2 Comment on: Don’t burn ISOs: . . . In return you’ll save your money on the DVD-R, save time burning.

Now, compared to the D/L time, just how much time are you saving? C’mon! And how much does cost a DVD-R? Let’s get real, it’s not that expensive!

#3 Comment on: we’d all like to see some more of that SuperKaramba. But it’s not included. Shame on you, SUSE!

SuperKaramba is _NOT_ a serious, business-oriented, thing. It’s an eye-candy gizmo. I don’t need it. Real business envoronments should not need it. Way to go, Novell!

#4 Comment on: One important note though is that you get 450 packages less on the Eval DVD than on the 5 CDs. Thunderbird is amongst the packages missing on the DVD.

It seems that starting with Suse 10.0, when DVDs for i386 and x64 are now separated, this is NOT TRUE ANYMORE!
Despite of what still says here (CD vs. DVD), that “the DVD edition contains . . . a streamlined 32bit version of the software.” (the text is inherited unchanged from 9.3), it seems that not only the “Eval” DVD is now separated for the i386 and x64 platforms, but a DVD holds “the contents of these 5 i386 CDs” (see the release announcement).

So, please inquiry on the missing of the Thundebird. Maybe it’s not on the 5 CDs either!

Hint: in 9.3 there were some packages missing from the DVD, I can certify for: gnome-keyring-devel, gnome-panel-devel and libjpeg-devel. If they are now on the DVD for 10.0, then we should admit that now DVD == 5 CDs.

]]> By: Benjamin http://overtag.dk/wordpress/2005/10/suse-100-get-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-5 Benjamin Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:40:42 +0000 http://overtag.dk/wordpress/?p=3#comment-5 You are very right. I've changed the text to clarify what I meant. I didn't mean to say that ISOs are bad just because I have a low quality media. You are very right. I’ve changed the text to clarify what I meant. I didn’t mean to say that ISOs are bad just because I have a low quality media.

]]> By: Anonymous http://overtag.dk/wordpress/2005/10/suse-100-get-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-4 Anonymous Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:35:26 +0000 http://overtag.dk/wordpress/?p=3#comment-4 Nice review. But why should the trouble you have with your DVD-Rs discourage anyone else from using ISOs? Reduce the writing speed or try different disks. Nice review. But why should the trouble you have with your DVD-Rs discourage anyone else from using ISOs? Reduce the writing speed or try different disks.

]]> By: Benjamin http://overtag.dk/wordpress/2005/10/suse-100-get-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-3 Benjamin Sun, 09 Oct 2005 21:26:13 +0000 http://overtag.dk/wordpress/?p=3#comment-3 Vi holder installationsparty p? tirsdag! S? skal jeg nok s?rge for at have det hele klart... inkl. champagne og al min ?kspertise =) Vi holder installationsparty p? tirsdag! S? skal jeg nok s?rge for at have det hele klart… inkl. champagne og al min ?kspertise =)

]]> By: Morten Silcowitz http://overtag.dk/wordpress/2005/10/suse-100-get-the-facts/comment-page-1/#comment-2 Morten Silcowitz Sun, 09 Oct 2005 21:22:13 +0000 http://overtag.dk/wordpress/?p=3#comment-2 Hey benjamin... det ser godt ud. F?r dine meddataloger ikke snart en DVD med Suse p Hey benjamin… det ser godt ud. F?r dine meddataloger ikke snart en DVD med Suse p

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